Pump freezing near peak pressure

11 years 4 months ago #72 by gregwils
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I have an older CH twin cylinder 4 HP 26 gallon compressor. As it reaches peak pressure (100 +/- PSI), the pump seems to have increased resistance. Prior to the pressure switch activating, the belt starts to squeal and the whole unit seems to be in a battle with itself, and I can hear a knocking noise from the pump. At first I thought it was the belt, so I replaced it, but it just made the more noise. I replaced the pressure switch with a new four port condor, but no change. It runs fun at lower pressures, but not above 100.

I have pulled up on the check valve so I know it releases air. Also, the check valve seems to hold air when closed and the pump is off.

I would prefer to repair than replace, but right now I am just blindly replacing parts. Any thoughts on how to diagnose or what I might try next?

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11 years 4 months ago #75 by MTR-Admin
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Thank you for the inquiry.

If you do happen to have the model# of the unit that will be helpful as I'll be able to give you more accurate information with the model#.

Regardless, there may be a few potential problems causing this. I would first confirm your tank Check Valve doesn't have any debris inside (from the head, possibly, or condensation build-up) as this will cause air to force its way into a smaller area which could bog down the unit.

Also, make sure the Belt is not too tight and that the motor pulley and pump flywheel are aligned as best as you can tell. As far as belt tension is concerned usually you want 1/2" deflection, when you push down on the belt. This seems obvious but is pretty commonly overlooked.

Lastly, I would say that it could potentially be an internal pump problem whether it be the crank bearings or connecting rods seizing. As long as you have a straight 30 weight, NON-detergent compressor oil in the unit and the oil level is sufficient, this should not be the problem.

I've attached a couple of documents where you can find additional trouble shooting information on these oil-bath electric compressors that may help you further.

I hope this helps as a starting point, good luck and feel free to post the answer to the problem in this forum if you find the solution!
- MTR
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11 years 4 months ago #76 by gregwils
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Thanks for the quick response. I need to verify the model number when I get home, but I am fairly certain it is a VT2200.

I am not sure how to check the check valve other than manually release some pressure to allow air to escape. Also, I know the belt isn't too tight, because I was a little concerned it wasn't tight enough. I am sure I have 1/2 to 3/4 deflection. There is slack and the pulley's are aligned.

I am running Mobil 1 synthetic oil, which the manual said was fine. I don't hear the knocking at low pressures, only at the point at which the compressor seems to be unable to push out air against the pressure in the line.

I'll focus my attention on the check valve this weekend and let you know if I discover anything. Thanks for your assistance.

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11 years 4 months ago #77 by MTR-Admin
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Sounds good, looks like you have most bases covered.

The main brass check valve in the tank should probably be removed, just make sure you drain the tanks completely prior to removing it. It's like an iceberg, you'll just see the large hex fitting externally, the valve is in the tank.

Drain the tank(s), remove the main Discharge Tube from the pump and remove the Check Valve to see what you can find.

Lastly, you may want to confirm your capacitors are in good shape on your motor. If the Run Capacitor has lost "juice" it will not provide enough energy to keep the motor running at higher pressures. Let me know what you find.
Thanks again!
- MTR

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11 years 4 months ago #78 by MTR-Admin
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Also, check the Reed Valves in the pump head. Many times the reed valves will rust and stick to the Head or Valve Plate (if it has a separate valve plate) which will cause this problem. This is something you'll definitely want to check out.
- MTR

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11 years 4 months ago #81 by gregwils
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I think I figured out the problem, but created a new one in the process.

My exact model is a VT612300AJ. What I thought was the check valve was the safety valve. The check valve had some corrosion and the piston/seal couldn't move freely. I cleaned it up and it seems fine.

I removed the regulator to have access to everything and managed to strip the threads in the aluminum body, so now my regulator is toast. My regulator has an outlet for the hose, the gauge, the pressure switch and the safety valve.

Can you recommend a correct replacement regulator? Thanks.

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